本文由Ani Pema Dechen翻译，来自Facebook，原文地址http://gogo-viva.blogspot.com。图1来自拍摄于2010年12月15日，在菩提伽耶举行的第28届噶举祈愿法会上。
一位印度记者的文章：不是合法与非法的问题，是有关信仰！
假如这部分钱是非法的，那几乎所有的宗教机构都要小心了！
对于这样一个伟大的藏传佛教领袖噶玛巴来说，这点钱有什么值得大惊小怪？他最近刚从菩提伽耶、每年一次的祈愿法会回来，接见很多从世界各地来的带着虔诚心的弟子，那些弟子也会供养他们最敬爱的上师，只是几百万卢比（不是美金），那值得大惊小怪吗？那如果发生在非洲，或许是。但是如果是在美国、日本、韩国、香港或台湾，当然不是！尊胜大宝法王在藏传佛教中拥有世界性的知名度，很多人全年积攒出时间和金钱，就是为了能到这里见他一面，以表达他们至诚的敬意并参加在菩提迦耶举办的祈愿法会，为世界祈祷和平。弟子们的供养不仅仅是尊敬上师并且相信上师在过去和未来的佛行事业，例如，上师提供尼院的日常开销、无家可归的人们和西藏传统艺术等。
所以祈愿法会结束后，上师得到一批供养钱并不是什么大事，尤其那些钱是来自于25个国家！那也意味着有25个国家以上的人们到印度来提高印度的经济！所以对于那笔数目的资金，人们不会感到奇怪！尤其是那笔钱是来自世界各地弟子的供养。在佛教中，只要你愿意，你可以尽可能地供养，那不是关于合法或非法的问题，那是信心！假如那笔钱被声称是非法而拘留，那么你需要证明所有弟子们的供养都是非法的理由。我们希望从世界各地来的人们不要给印度一个像‘宗教恐怖主义’的坏印象。印度作为佛陀的故乡，我们希望这件事情不要毁了印度的声誉，尤其是这个国家，还努力在保留佛陀时代的特征。
星期三整个印度庆祝她的独立日，这表示这个国家懂得自由的价值 ，那是用很多沉默的解放运动换来的今天的局面。很多年以前，第17世噶玛巴带着他的传承的责任，冒着生命危险来到印度（世界上最重要的喇嘛之一），政府友善地给与了他可以在印度停留的难民身份，然而他的行动到今天还受限制，即使是拜见达赖喇嘛，还需要审批。这个原因是来自于不明的信息，有人怀疑他跟中国当局还有着某种联系，虽然还没有人能证明那信息是什么和从哪里来。
这两天，更多的传媒声称被扣押的钱是进行非法的土地交易，调查还在进行中，但结论明显地已经出来了！
假如大宝法王住的房间可能你的房间还小，而事实上就是比我们大部分人的还小，那你什么感觉？尤其是对于那些真诚信仰他的弟子们，假如有人事先没有征得他的同意而要供养他土地，那非常正常! 在佛陀时代，须达长着（Anathapindika）就找到一个合适的地方（祗园精舍）供养佛陀，他在地方铺上金币而买地，就是为了提供佛陀演说法教。这是佛教非常美丽的传统，美丽的印度古老传统。
在古时代，供养佛陀是非常吉祥的事，今天也一样！假如你有一分钱供养佛陀，你会说不吗？除此之外，假如你非常富有，你想供养土地或房子给佛陀，你不会迟疑这么做的。你怎么会错过通过供养而积累福德善业的机会？那些不是佛教徒的人们可能会好奇那是怎么回事，那是有关信仰！在其他宗教中也有同样的例子。我们怎能否认信仰？我们怎能定义供养是非法的？美国人也是通过金钱而展现他们的信仰（我们信仰的上帝）。
所以，这笔钱就跟用金币供养佛陀没有什么不同，假如那笔钱被声称为非法而被扣留，那么请向全世界证明弟子的非法性，乃至所有的佛教徒们！假如供养是合法的，那么金钱的供养也同样合法；假如供养合法，那么一块表、一本书、一个IPAD、一辆汽车甚至供养一块土地也同样合法（can you say “no” to Steve Jobs?），最主要的是，假如人们不能定义或证明供养是非法的证据，那他们应该看到更深的一个层面，更深一层，他们会看到信仰！一旦他们看到了信仰，那不再是合法或非法的问题，而是信仰！
Legal! Illegal?
FRIDAY, JANUARY 28, 2011
If this money offering is illegal, most of Religion institutions have to be careful!
What’s the big deal for such a great and famous Tibetan Buddhism Lama--His Holiness the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje who recently just back from Bodhgaya where the Kagyu Monlam was held each year, meeting many disciples who came from the worldwide also made offerings to their dearest Guru, to have millions Rupees (not million US dollars!)? Is it a big deal? If it happens in Africa, maybe. But if in America, Japan, Korean, HK or Taiwan, of course not! His Holiness is such a great and worldwide famous Lama in Tibetan Buddhism, many people save their holidays and money of the whole year just for coming here to see Him, sending their respect toward to Him, to attending the Kagyu Monlam in Bodhgaya, India. "Monlam" is an occasion to pray for world peace, and the disciples’ donations are not only for showing their respects to Guru, but also for trusting the activities which HH has done in the past and coming future, for example, HH sponsors the nunnery daily usage, homeless people, schools and traditional Tibetan arts etc.
So it’s not a big deal for having the money after the great Monlam, especially currencies from 25 countries! This also means more than 25 countries’ people have came to India to enhance Indian economy! So, people won’t be surprised about the amount of money. Especially, the money was offered by all the disciples around the world. In Buddhism, you can offer as much as you can, as you want. It’s not about legal or illegal. It’s about faith. If the money is detained by claiming it's illegal therefore someone need to make a proof to all the disciples even all the Buddhists its illegal reason. We hope people from other countries won’t get a bad impression that India may be a country which is “religion terrorism”. As a Buddha’s home country, we truly wish this wouldn’t ruin India’s reputation, especially this beautiful country still trying hard to keep its nice characters and traditions since the Buddha's time.
The whole India celebrated the Independent Day on this Wed. which represents it's a country understands the value of freedom due to many silent revolutions for achieving to the current situation. Many years ago, HH the 17th Karmapa with the expectation to continuing his responsibility of Tibetan Buddhism lineage risked his life to India, afterward the Government of India very kindly gave him (one of the most important Lamas in the world) a refugee status for staying in India. However his action is confined till today, even visiting HH Dalai Lama still need approval. The reason is because of unknown information suspecting him having the connection with China authority. Although no one proves what the "unknown" information is and where it comes from so far.
These 2 days, most of the news reports claimed the money which found is for some "illegal" land deal, the investigation is still in process but this conclusion seems has already came out!
If you know HH Karmapa lives in a room which may be smaller than yours (actually smaller than most of ours), then how will you feel? Especially for those disciples who respect him sincerely. So if someone really wants to donate the land without notifying HH also without a consent from Him, that's normal, in Tibetan Buddhism, that's normal! During the time of Lord Buddha, Anathapindika sought a suitable place for the Buddha's residence, so he covered the golden coins on the Jetavana in order to buy it to provide the Buddha a place to proceed the Buddha’s activities. This was a beautiful tradition, a beautiful tradition in Buddhism, a beautiful tradition from the ancient India.
In ancient time, it was the most auspicious thing to make an offering to the Buddha, same as today! If you have a coin to offer to the Buddha, would you say no? In addition, If you were rich enough to offer a house even a land to the Buddha, you would not hesitate to do so. How can you miss this precious opportunity to gain your merit through offering? People who are not Buddhists maybe curious about it, but it’s faith, there are many examples to prove how faithful people are in other religions. So, how can we deny faith? How can we define offering is illegal? Americans even show their faith in their bills (In God We Trust).
So, this money is no longer different than the golden coins for offering to the Living Buddha! If the money is detained by claiming it's illegal therefore please show the whole world its proof of illegality to all the disciples, all the Buddhists. If offering is legal then the money offering is legal. If offering is legal then a watch, a book, an ipad (can you say “no” to Steve Jobs?) a car, a house even a land offering is legal! Most of all, the key point is if "the people" can't define or show evidences of "offering" illegality then they should go to the deeper part, look deeply, they'll see the FAITH. Once they see "faith" they'll realize it is no longer about legal or illegal but FAITH!
Legal! Illegal?
FRIDAY, JANUARY 28, 2011
If this money offering is illegal, most of Religion institutions have to be careful!
What’s the big deal for such a great and famous Tibetan Buddhism Lama--His Holiness the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje who recently just back from Bodhgaya where the Kagyu Monlam was held each year, meeting many disciples who came from the worldwide also made offerings to their dearest Guru, to have millions Rupees (not million US dollars!)? Is it a big deal? If it happens in Africa, maybe. But if in America, Japan, Korean, HK or Taiwan, of course not! His Holiness is such a great and worldwide famous Lama in Tibetan Buddhism, many people save their holidays and money of the whole year just for coming here to see Him, sending their respect toward to Him, to attending the Kagyu Monlam in Bodhgaya, India. "Monlam" is an occasion to pray for world peace, and the disciples’ donations are not only for showing their respects to Guru, but also for trusting the activities which HH has done in the past and coming future, for example, HH sponsors the nunnery daily usage, homeless people, schools and traditional Tibetan arts etc.
So it’s not a big deal for having the money after the great Monlam, especially currencies from 25 countries! This also means more than 25 countries’ people have came to India to enhance Indian economy! So, people won’t be surprised about the amount of money. Especially, the money was offered by all the disciples around the world. In Buddhism, you can offer as much as you can, as you want. It’s not about legal or illegal. It’s about faith. If the money is detained by claiming it's illegal therefore someone need to make a proof to all the disciples even all the Buddhists its illegal reason. We hope people from other countries won’t get a bad impression that India may be a country which is “religion terrorism”. As a Buddha’s home country, we truly wish this wouldn’t ruin India’s reputation, especially this beautiful country still trying hard to keep its nice characters and traditions since the Buddha's time.
The whole India celebrated the Independent Day on this Wed. which represents it's a country understands the value of freedom due to many silent revolutions for achieving to the current situation. Many years ago, HH the 17th Karmapa with the expectation to continuing his responsibility of Tibetan Buddhism lineage risked his life to India, afterward the Government of India very kindly gave him (one of the most important Lamas in the world) a refugee status for staying in India. However his action is confined till today, even visiting HH Dalai Lama still need approval. The reason is because of unknown information suspecting him having the connection with China authority. Although no one proves what the "unknown" information is and where it comes from so far.
These 2 days, most of the news reports claimed the money which found is for some "illegal" land deal, the investigation is still in process but this conclusion seems has already came out!
If you know HH Karmapa lives in a room which may be smaller than yours (actually smaller than most of ours), then how will you feel? Especially for those disciples who respect him sincerely. So if someone really wants to donate the land without notifying HH also without a consent from Him, that's normal, in Tibetan Buddhism, that's normal! During the time of Lord Buddha, Anathapindika sought a suitable place for the Buddha's residence, so he covered the golden coins on the Jetavana in order to buy it to provide the Buddha a place to proceed the Buddha’s activities. This was a beautiful tradition, a beautiful tradition in Buddhism, a beautiful tradition from the ancient India.
In ancient time, it was the most auspicious thing to make an offering to the Buddha, same as today! If you have a coin to offer to the Buddha, would you say no? In addition, If you were rich enough to offer a house even a land to the Buddha, you would not hesitate to do so. How can you miss this precious opportunity to gain your merit through offering? People who are not Buddhists maybe curious about it, but it’s faith, there are many examples to prove how faithful people are in other religions. So, how can we deny faith? How can we define offering is illegal? Americans even show their faith in their bills (In God We Trust).
So, this money is no longer different than the golden coins for offering to the Living Buddha! If the money is detained by claiming it's illegal therefore please show the whole world its proof of illegality to all the disciples, all the Buddhists. If offering is legal then the money offering is legal. If offering is legal then a watch, a book, an ipad (can you say “no” to Steve Jobs?) a car, a house even a land offering is legal! Most of all, the key point is if "the people" can't define or show evidences of "offering" illegality then they should go to the deeper part, look deeply, they'll see the FAITH. Once they see "faith" they'll realize it is no longer about legal or illegal but FAITH!
BBC中文
回复删除噶玛巴否认和中国政府有任何牵连
据来自印度达兰萨拉的消息说，警察在当地时间星期五（1月28日）晚间询问了流亡印度的西藏佛教领袖第17世噶玛巴活佛，试图查清从他的寺院中搜出巨款的来源。
第17世噶玛巴活佛是藏传佛教的第三号领袖人物，仅次于达赖喇嘛和班禅喇嘛。他在1999年12月逃亡到印度，一直居住在达兰萨拉的上密院。
达兰萨拉所在的喜马偕尔邦警方在星期四（1月27日）搜查上密院时查获大约价值78万美元的各国货币，有20多个币种，包括中国的人民币。
间谍指称
当地的一位警方负责人对媒体说，“发现的现金数额巨大，我们一定要查清楚这些钱的来源和用途。”
此前曾有印度媒体报道说，噶玛巴可能是中国当局派往印度的间谍，希望成为在达兰萨拉的流亡藏人的领袖。
据印度媒体星期日（1月30日）引述噶玛巴发表的一份声明说，他同中国政府没有任何联系。
声明还说，“这笔现金是来自当地和许多不同国家的信徒出于慈善目的捐款，而世界各地的寺院以不同形式收到信徒的捐款，这并不奇怪，并不新鲜，也很正常。”
声明在解释搜查出的人民币现金时说，“噶玛巴活佛在西藏有众多的信徒，他们通常以人民币捐款。”
达赖喇嘛：应该把钱存银行
据报道，印度警方搜查噶玛巴寺院的行动是由一起所谓非法在喜马偕尔邦购地的案件引发的。
但是噶玛巴在最新发表的声明中说，噶玛巴目前居住在临时住所，一直希望建造一座寺院长期居住。声明还说，有关的购地计划正在进行之中，并且已经报告给了印度当局。
西藏流亡精神领袖达赖喇嘛星期日正在印度南部城市班加罗尔，他在就这一问题受到记者的提问时明确表达了对噶玛巴的支持。
达赖喇嘛说，“没有什么中国的联系，这些钱都是捐款。不过就这件事来说，应该把钱存到银行里。”
法王噶瑪巴辦公室：聲明發佈─20110129
回复删除http://www.kagyuoffice.org.tw/office/announcement/20110129.htm
發佈日期：2011年1月29日
發佈單位：噶瑪巴辦公室
我們在此嚴正聲明，那些針對法王噶瑪巴和法王辦公室的指控都是過度不當的臆測，而且毫無任何事實根據。每一位瞭解我們傳承的歷史、我們的奮鬥努力以及法王生平的人，都對這些不實的指控感到震驚。
我們嚴正否認與中國政府的任何單位有任何關連。法王噶瑪巴對印度這個偉大國家的人民有著深厚的情感，多年來，也在這塊土地上奉行著他的信仰。我們與民主的印度政府有長期良好的合作關係，印度政府對不同文化的表現及信仰也一直展現出極大的寬容。
全世界許多國家的廣大信眾都對我們極為信任，也極具信心，透過他們每一位的供養，使我們的教派得以從事許多公眾服務的重大計劃，這些計畫已經利益了成千上萬印度及其他國家的人們。
世界各地的寺院都會接受來自信眾各種形式的供養，這並不是什麼讓人訝異、沒發生過，或是不尋常的事情。昨天，一位來自達賴喇嘛尊者辦公室的代表，就特別強調了這一點。目前警方正在調查中的那些被討論的現金，都是來自當地及全世界許多不同國家的弟子們用於行善的供養，這些弟子們希望透過他們的供養，來支持法王噶瑪巴各種不同的慈善活動。任何推測這些供養將被用於非法用途的說法都構成了誹謗。
談到人民幣的來源，事實上，尊貴的法王有一大群來自西藏的藏人弟子，他們都是以人民幣做供養。法王噶瑪巴在全世界有數以百萬計的追隨者，他們都對法王心懷無上的崇敬和愛戴，這是不爭的事實。我們在世界各地的所有交易往來，都是十分坦誠而且完全透明化，因為任何其他的作為，都會違反我們尊信奉行的佛教信念。
由於目前法王噶瑪巴居住在位於達蘭沙拉的暫時住所，法王辦公室一直以來都在爭取能興建一座寺院，做為法王永久的居住地。這個計劃無疑必須得到印度政府的同意。法王辦公室也持續向印度政府的相關單位，完整地報告欲購買適當土地的近期計劃。那處可能的購置地點，已經由印度政府適當的相關單位做過評估，也獲得了批准。購地的協商作業仍在溝通進行中，並已呈報印度當局，這一切完全是攤在陽光之下光明正大的。
我可以證實沙提喇嘛 (Shakti Lama) 昨天已經遭到拘留，但是我們有信心，只要我們盡快提供法律上所需要的答案，沙提喇嘛很快就會被釋放。我也可以確定，尊貴的法王噶瑪巴隨時都準備好接受相關官員的詢問。
我們將盡可能定期提供最充分的訊息，但是我們也必須聲明：我們的第一要務是要完全配合正在進行中的調查。
噶瑪巴辦公室發佈
2011年1月29日
於達蘭沙拉
这个问题我觉得是我们内部搞出来的，另外一个噶玛巴一直和印度高管有来往而且是很高……也听说他们贿赂了很多印度高级警察，在印度噶玛巴一直没有得到应有的承认，包括西藏流亡政府也是使用了一些政治手段……我觉得这次风波应该有达赖喇嘛出面，也因该因此事件真正确定他因有的地位。
回复删除1噶玛巴流亡到印度后一直处在软禁当中，虽然说是印度政府的意思但是不可否认这里面有西藏流亡政府的政治。
回复删除2另外一个噶玛巴有政治势力，比如说现在流亡政府的大家族嘉日家族就是倒像另外一方的，所以噶玛巴在印度除了被爱戴什么也没有。
3到印度这么多年了，噶玛巴还没有自己的寺庙，西藏流亡政府并没有全力支持噶玛巴在印度稳定下来。
4这次事件不可否认有另外一个噶玛巴势力参与，几年前就听说他们贿赂了很多法官高级警察……
5噶玛巴在印度的处境是所有新流亡者的处境，西藏流亡政府对新出来的藏人没有信任感甚至带有一些歧视。
如果不是要抚养年幼的女儿，我这次会供养我所有的人民币....法会上的一幕幕还在眼前；
回复删除如今，世界那个地方也不是净地，我的意思是，污蔑和陷害，在藏人的历史中与净地佛门一起存在。流亡西藏政府也不在美丽的西方香巴拉，那里的栽赃陷害也是触目惊心的，有时候。法王噶玛巴也许是有人陷害，最好证实一下有好处。内地出去的几乎都有这个经历。
回复删除不多吗，才80000欧元多吧。
回复删除怎么？现在中共挑拨离间不够，还要玩内斗吗？印度政府限制噶玛巴在印度的活动，这与流亡政府有什么关系？一个前面加了“流亡”的政府，你以为印度人会听他们的？流亡政府自己都处处小心谨慎，事事都要请示印度政府，他们吃饱了没事儿干会去整噶玛巴？至于流亡政府是不是十全十美，是不是百分之百的官员都真的为我难民着想-----废话！当然不可能！我还在一些事上对他们憋着一肚子气呢！（个人私事，“憋”着是因为自己理亏！！）你有本事给我找出来一个纯洁如处女般的政府。流亡社区几大藏文和英文的私营报社们摆在那儿呢，时刻准备着揭发任何官员违法违纪的蛛丝马迹。
回复删除现在我们要做的是关注事件的进展，用各种方式声源噶玛巴，而不是在那里瞎猜测，竟然连另一个噶玛巴都扯出来了，不像话！这位“匿名”哥真的和那些印度记者们有得一比，你把达赖喇嘛尊者扯进来想干什么？尊者的支持你是没听见还是没看见？还有，噶玛巴应有的地位是什么意思？无数的信徒就是证明，难道你还不明白？新到的和旧到的难民间当然有互相不了解的方面，但是请你别鬼扯什么“歧视”，那可是共匪们最想看到的局面。
我干脆也来猜测一下，“匿名”哥，您居心叵测啊！！！！
失误！本想“匿名”来着，ｃｏｐｙ ｐａｓｔｅ时误发上网了，大家读起来还以为是这篇文章的“作者”呢！抱歉
回复删除请教, 怎么能看出原文作者"Gogo viva" 是一名"印度记者"?
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